#1 November 19th, 2005 02:33 AM

liz
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Ewww-ing over tampons

Ok, so...I just have to speak out on this.  There is a comment on today's folio that goes something like, "Is that a tampon in one shot?  Yuck!"

I am so f'ing sick of people (mostly guys, but some women, too) being all squeamish over our blood.  Why is it that you're just fine shooting your load on us, in us, whatever, but OHMYGOD there's blood coming out of her pussy and she's using something to absorb it!!!!!?  (Yes, I know I'm generalizing, I know there are many fine men out there who not friggin' pussies who understand that monthly bleeding in natural and beautiful and they will make us tea and rub our backs and run to the store for tampons when we run out.  But goddamn, it seems like the adolescent response-having ones are so prevalent.)

It's a natural bodily function, kids.  How ridiculous would you think someone who said,  "Oh, gross!  He ejaculated!" or "Nasty!  I can't believe he would let himself be photographed while he was sweating!" or "Sick!  How could he sneeze in public?"

I'm really of the mind that men who react like this have never been with a real woman who is going to tell them, listen up, fucker, if you want the privilege of being near this gorgeous body, you best appreciate all of the amazing things that it does, monthly bleeding included, and knock it off with that juvenile, bullshit "ewwww!" or even worse, "snicker snicker," "she's bleeeeeeeeeeeeding!!!!!!"

C'mon, people.  I expected these sorts of reactions to bleeding when I was, ya know, in, like, the sixth grade.  I *so* thought we were past all this!  But I guess not...  sad


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#2 November 19th, 2005 03:27 AM

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Well said, I too was amazed and dismayed by the absurd not to mention tacktless comment.

speaking for myself, (and compared to many I could even be considered prudish in my sexual tastes) I encountered a bleeding lover early on and it has never bothered nor slowed me down (OK, poor choice of idiom- the slower the better I figure but you get my drift)

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#3 November 19th, 2005 03:30 AM

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Well said, I too was amazed and dismayed by the absurd, not to mention tactless, comment.

Speaking for myself, (and compared to many I could even be considered prudish in my sexual tastes) I encountered a bleeding lover early on and it has never bothered nor slowed me down (OK, poor choice of idiom- the slower the better I figure but you get my drift)

Cheers

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#4 November 19th, 2005 05:44 AM

blissed
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liz wrote:

C'mon, people.  I expected these sorts of reactions to bleeding when I was, ya know, in, like, the sixth grade.  I *so* thought we were past all this!  But I guess not...  sad

I saw on TV a while ago a programme about an African tribe where, when the women would menstruate, they decorated their bodies with their blood, as a sign of fertility. I don't know if they mixed it with anything to make it set and stick as it dried.
What would you think, if you picked up a copy of Vogue, and saw on the cover model's right cheek and neck, a stencilled pattern created from her own menstrual fluid. It would shock for a while, and that would probably be a good reason for doing it.
It only takes the right magazines, music and TV to make something that is acceptable in one society, acceptable in ours.
I think that would largely solve the problem wouldn't it ?

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#5 November 19th, 2005 07:17 AM

mzungu
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[QUOTE=blissed]
It only takes the right magazines, music and TV to make something that is acceptable in one society, acceptable in ours. QUOTE]

Quite right, think of food preferences:  most western folk consider themselves adventuresome for cautiously sampling fried grasshoppers or chocolate covered ants- but actually eating BUGS as a delicacy...  Eewww, and, Yuk! (in keeping with the tone of this thread) but now Lobster,  Umm-mm, Good!! 
-Wait a minute- a lobster is just a great big nasty bug after all!

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#6 November 19th, 2005 08:46 AM

RFremnant
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If it was a man's thing to menstruate, then we would be bragging about it and there would be no negative stigma attatched to it.  I consider it just another form of oppression and discrimination against women by vulnerable little men.  The same little men probably think that a wild crop of pubic hair is a little unwomenly.  Fuck that I say!

A bleeding woman is a beautiful woman and it is a joy for her to share this with you and not let it stifle her desire.  Embrace the blood and the products that soak it up and learn to see the beauty in every aspect of the female condition.

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#7 November 19th, 2005 09:20 AM

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liz wrote:

Ok, so...I just have to speak out on this.  There is a comment on today's folio that goes something like, "Is that a tampon in one shot?  Yuck!"

I am so f'ing sick of people (mostly guys, but some women, too) being all squeamish over our blood.  Why is it that you're just fine shooting your load on us, in us, whatever, but OHMYGOD there's blood coming out of her pussy and she's using something to absorb it!!!!!?  (Yes, I know I'm generalizing, I know there are many fine men out there who not friggin' pussies who understand that monthly bleeding in natural and beautiful and they will make us tea and rub our backs and run to the store for tampons when we run out.  But goddamn, it seems like the adolescent response-having ones are so prevalent.)

It's a natural bodily function, kids.  How ridiculous would you think someone who said,  "Oh, gross!  He ejaculated!" or "Nasty!  I can't believe he would let himself be photographed while he was sweating!" or "Sick!  How could he sneeze in public?"

I'm really of the mind that men who react like this have never been with a real woman who is going to tell them, listen up, fucker, if you want the privilege of being near this gorgeous body, you best appreciate all of the amazing things that it does, monthly bleeding included, and knock it off with that juvenile, bullshit "ewwww!" or even worse, "snicker snicker," "she's bleeeeeeeeeeeeding!!!!!!"

C'mon, people.  I expected these sorts of reactions to bleeding when I was, ya know, in, like, the sixth grade.  I *so* thought we were past all this!  But I guess not...  sad


eh, it was just one discourteous hick - probably just killing time between cow tippings.  Definitely not representative of the majority of lads on here who are of course all unfailingly mannered and amiable.

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#8 November 19th, 2005 10:50 AM

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liz wrote:

Ok, so...I just have to speak out on this.  There is a comment on today's folio that goes something like, "Is that a tampon in one shot?  Yuck!"

I am so f'ing sick of people (mostly guys, but some women, too) being all squeamish over our blood.  Why is it that you're just fine shooting your load on us, in us, whatever, but OHMYGOD there's blood coming out of her pussy and she's using something to absorb it!!!!!?  (Yes, I know I'm generalizing, I know there are many fine men out there who not friggin' pussies who understand that monthly bleeding in natural and beautiful and they will make us tea and rub our backs and run to the store for tampons when we run out.  But goddamn, it seems like the adolescent response-having ones are so prevalent.)

It's a natural bodily function, kids.  How ridiculous would you think someone who said,  "Oh, gross!  He ejaculated!" or "Nasty!  I can't believe he would let himself be photographed while he was sweating!" or "Sick!  How could he sneeze in public?"

I'm really of the mind that men who react like this have never been with a real woman who is going to tell them, listen up, fucker, if you want the privilege of being near this gorgeous body, you best appreciate all of the amazing things that it does, monthly bleeding included, and knock it off with that juvenile, bullshit "ewwww!" or even worse, "snicker snicker," "she's bleeeeeeeeeeeeding!!!!!!"

C'mon, people.  I expected these sorts of reactions to bleeding when I was, ya know, in, like, the sixth grade.  I *so* thought we were past all this!  But I guess not...  sad

I agree with you the comment was tactless and insensitive, but I also think expecting people to find all natural bodily functions attractive is unrealistic. There are plenty of bodily functions both male and female that I find unpleasent, and I think the majority of people would feel the same. There's a difference between knowing when to hold your tongue about something out of curtousy and embracing it.


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#9 November 19th, 2005 02:03 PM

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liz wrote:

Ok, so...I just have to speak out on this.  There is a comment on today's folio that goes something like, "Is that a tampon in one shot?  Yuck!"

I am so f'ing sick of people (mostly guys, but some women, too) being all squeamish over our blood.  Why is it that you're just fine shooting your load on us, in us, whatever, but OHMYGOD there's blood coming out of her pussy and she's using something to absorb it!!!!!?  (Yes, I know I'm generalizing, I know there are many fine men out there who not friggin' pussies who understand that monthly bleeding in natural and beautiful and they will make us tea and rub our backs and run to the store for tampons when we run out.  But goddamn, it seems like the adolescent response-having ones are so prevalent.)

It's a natural bodily function, kids.  How ridiculous would you think someone who said,  "Oh, gross!  He ejaculated!" or "Nasty!  I can't believe he would let himself be photographed while he was sweating!" or "Sick!  How could he sneeze in public?"

I'm really of the mind that men who react like this have never been with a real woman who is going to tell them, listen up, fucker, if you want the privilege of being near this gorgeous body, you best appreciate all of the amazing things that it does, monthly bleeding included, and knock it off with that juvenile, bullshit "ewwww!" or even worse, "snicker snicker," "she's bleeeeeeeeeeeeding!!!!!!"

C'mon, people.  I expected these sorts of reactions to bleeding when I was, ya know, in, like, the sixth grade.  I *so* thought we were past all this!  But I guess not...  sad

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#10 November 19th, 2005 02:06 PM

lynchmob65
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I Happen To Find It Exciting. I Have Gone Down On And Fucked All Of My Girlfriends During Their Periods. And I Also Enjoy Watching Them Remove The Tampons!

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#11 November 20th, 2005 12:09 PM

mikhaill
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lynchmob65 wrote:

I Happen To Find It Exciting. I Have Gone Down On And Fucked All Of My Girlfriends During Their Periods. And I Also Enjoy Watching Them Remove The Tampons!

Personally, I Get Off On Capitalised Words Scattered Throughout Sentences!

*Hot!*


Witty one-liner encapsulating powerful insight.

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#12 November 20th, 2005 04:51 PM

SCSIgirl
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mikhaill wrote:

Personally, I Get Off On Capitalised Words Scattered Throughout Sentences!

*Hot!*

Carefull!!!!  You might earn your "redwings"!!!


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#13 November 20th, 2005 05:32 PM

mikhaill
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SCSIgirl wrote:

Carefull!!!!  You might earn your "redwings"!!!

You Didn't Capitalise!

*Sad*


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#14 November 21st, 2005 12:26 AM

SCSIgirl
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mikhaill wrote:

You Didn't Capitalise!

*Sad*

It's OK.  I'm not into making money on my "Redwings".


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#15 November 21st, 2005 04:15 AM

liz
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jdudley76 wrote:

but I also think expecting people to find all natural bodily functions attractive is unrealistic. There are plenty of bodily functions both male and female that I find unpleasent, and I think the majority of people would feel the same. There's a difference between knowing when to hold your tongue about something out of curtousy and embracing it.

Oh, I was never arguing that all people should think, "Bleeding is glorious and fabulous and totally hot" or anything like that.  There is a huge middle ground between acting all grossed out by this natural monthly process and embracing it as "attractive."  I'm looking for that middle ground, man.  I just think it's bogus that people are still all weird and sqeamish and "Eww!!" over something so so natural.


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#16 November 21st, 2005 06:25 AM

Belgareth
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liz wrote:

Oh, I was never arguing that all people should think, "Bleeding is glorious and fabulous and totally hot" or anything like that.  There is a huge middle ground between acting all grossed out by this natural monthly process and embracing it as "attractive."  I'm looking for that middle ground, man.  I just think it's bogus that people are still all weird and sqeamish and "Eww!!" over something so so natural.

I'm with you Liz. Why go over the top, in either direction, over something that is normal and natural? Unfortunately, there's a whole section of society that cannot cope with things sanguine, whether it be to do with a scratched knee, a nose or a menstrual cycle. Therefore there is an inappropriate and very unfair association of visual signs, like bandages, Elastoplasts (Band Aids) and tampons with this dislike of blood.

In my book, menstruation is something that just happens, not something to shout from the rooftops, unless the person doing the shouting is under a compulsion caused by rampant hormone shifts, which they can't do a damn thing about.


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#17 November 21st, 2005 06:30 AM

Belgareth
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shannon wrote:

eh, it was just one discourteous hick - probably just killing time between cow tippings.  Definitely not representative of the majority of lads on here who are of course all unfailingly mannered and amiable.

I am reliably informed Shannon that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit ........ but I reckon it also has to be the highest form of intelligence.


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#18 November 21st, 2005 09:07 AM

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I am not grossed out by periods or tampons or any other bodily functions.  That's not the issue here.  I don't mind seeing photos with strings showing but I really don't find it to be a necessary thing to share.  For me, it takes something away from the erotic nature of the photo and it tends to become more medical in nature.  A women's body is beautiful in any case but I prefer to see it more towards the fantasy side than the biology side, that's all.

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#19 November 22nd, 2005 11:21 AM

jdudley76
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liz wrote:

Oh, I was never arguing that all people should think, "Bleeding is glorious and fabulous and totally hot" or anything like that.  There is a huge middle ground between acting all grossed out by this natural monthly process and embracing it as "attractive."  I'm looking for that middle ground, man.  I just think it's bogus that people are still all weird and sqeamish and "Eww!!" over something so so natural.

Liz, It sounds like we're pretty much on the same page there. I just thought that was an important distinction to make.

rdzr1 wrote:

I am not grossed out by periods or tampons or any other bodily functions.  That's not the issue here.  I don't mind seeing photos with strings showing but I really don't find it to be a necessary thing to share.  For me, it takes something away from the erotic nature of the photo and it tends to become more medical in nature.  A women's body is beautiful in any case but I prefer to see it more towards the fantasy side than the biology side, that's all.

I think the point is, though, that the pictures are a statement by the artist, and may or may not be intended to be for your erotic pleasure. If the artist deems it appropriate to show that aspect of her existance, it is her prerogative to do so. If it's not something you want to look at, click to something else. But it is not appropreate to ridicule her for her choices in expressing herself.


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#20 November 22nd, 2005 12:33 PM

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jdudley76 wrote:

I think the point is, though, that the pictures are a statement by the artist, and may or may not be intended to be for your erotic pleasure. If the artist deems it appropriate to show that aspect of her existance, it is her prerogative to do so. If it's not something you want to look at, click to something else. But it is not appropreate to ridicule her for her choices in expressing herself.

Excellent summation sir.


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#21 November 22nd, 2005 04:58 PM

SCSIgirl
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jdudley76 wrote:

I think the point is, though, that the pictures are a statement by the artist, and may or may not be intended to be for your erotic pleasure. If the artist deems it appropriate to show that aspect of her existance, it is her prerogative to do so. If it's not something you want to look at, click to something else. But it is not appropreate to ridicule her for her choices in expressing herself.

Well put.  Some may not like clit rings,  hair, butt plugs, big dark moles, big lips, etc, but all are the artist's choice.

I like the strings.  They bring a wry smile.  I wonder when commercialism will catch up and start decorating them?  After all,  bandages come in commercial designs.


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#22 November 22nd, 2005 06:35 PM

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I certainly have no problem with a woman menstruating - as said, it's natural and unavoidable. I have made love to a woman during her period. I am supportive when my ladyfriend is feeling unwell before or during her period. But I do think it is possible to go too far.

Defecation is equally natural, as is urination, but you don't see people "celebrating their bowel motion" by smearing faeces on their body (well, not often...). And while some people get off on urinating on one another, it has never appealed to me.

So while I have no problem with a tampon string, I don't think I'd be interested in downloading a folio of a woman painting her body with menstrual blood (or faeces, or urine, or sputum, or semen, or phlegm for that matter).

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#23 November 22nd, 2005 09:32 PM

catt
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cynicism wrote:

I certainly have no problem with a woman menstruating - as said, it's natural and unavoidable. I have made love to a woman during her period. I am supportive when my ladyfriend is feeling unwell before or during her period. But I do think it is possible to go too far.

Defecation is equally natural, as is urination, but you don't see people "celebrating their bowel motion" by smearing faeces on their body (well, not often...). And while some people get off on urinating on one another, it has never appealed to me.

So while I have no problem with a tampon string, I don't think I'd be interested in downloading a folio of a woman painting her body with menstrual blood (or faeces, or urine, or sputum, or semen, or phlegm for that matter).

The woman in question isn't highlighting the fact that she's menstruating - she's just menstruating.  That it's noticable seems to be the issue, not that she's deliberately trying to be confronting.  Every single folio here isn't going to appeal to every single viewer.  I think what Liz is trying to say here is that whether you find it 'attractive' or not, whether you find it 'offensive' or 'offputting', or whether you just (rightly) accept it as a natural occurance, there is simply no need to verbalise it (not least where the artist can see it) as a fairly blatant attempt to humiliate the girl in question.

These are real girls with actual feelings, many of whom will end up reading our comments.  It more often than not takes a LOT of guts and courage to do what they do.  Making disparaging remarks only functions as yet another application for the retardation of sexual liberation.

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#24 November 22nd, 2005 09:34 PM

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Has anyone seen the movie Anatomy of Hell? Where she dips her bloody tampon in a glass of water and then drinks it? Aparently period blood is as clean as any other blood in our body. So when we cut our finger (like on the spindle of a spinning wheel???) and it bleeds, it can be instinctive to put it to our mouths and suck the blood, no worries. I think Germain Greer said evey woman should have tasted their own menstral blood at least once. I have, I was curious, just tasted like blood. Incidentally, I had a tampon in for my first folio.

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#25 November 22nd, 2005 09:34 PM

catt
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SCSIgirl wrote:

Well put.  Some may not like clit rings,  hair, butt plugs, big dark moles, big lips, etc, but all are the artist's choice.

I like the strings.  They bring a wry smile.  I wonder when commercialism will catch up and start decorating them?  After all,  bandages come in commercial designs.

The day I'm forced to administer a Sponge Bob Square Pants tampon is the same day I sell my uterus on the black market...


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