#1 July 11th, 2005 10:23 AM

trebora

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sexy phrases

On a side note

there is something thrilling to me to hear a woman say dodgy.

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catt

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On a side note

there is something thrilling to me to hear a woman say dodgy.

With me, it's hearing a long drawn-out "trouuusers".

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nagaloo

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As long as a smile goes with it.

The funniest thing ever said to me in a bar was "Hi I am really drunk, what are you doing here all alone?" As she leaned in close so I could see down her very low cut top and wrapped her arm around me. Was all I could do to keep from laughing. I said " Yes I can see that"
Wish now I had gotten her name for when she was sober. I need to get back to that bar.

Stew

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zille

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In the recent very silly movie "Mr & Mrs Smith," there is this moment where Angelina Jolie looks back over her shoulder at Brad Pit, and smirks, "Pussy!"

I just about melted into a puddle in my seat.  It was not just that she was saying what most people think is a crude word on the big screen like that, it was the way it poured, like some very naughty syrup, from her lips.

Ahhhhhhhh....!

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zille

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On a side note

there is something thrilling to me to hear a woman say dodgy.

I love to hear Eddie Izzard say "dodgy"!

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voyeur2

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In Cassablanca, still the best film ever made, there is a - if I am correct on the details - Lauren Becall 17 years old at the time and very sexy indeed saying to Bogey, if he wants to see her again - "Just whistle.  You know how to whistle don't you?  You put your lips together and blow." 

This is absolutely brilliant writing, acting and directing.  If you have not seen the film rent it!   Another example of billiant writing in that movie is a phrase still in use - the cynical statement by the police inspector - "round up the usual suspects."  Wow.  And the photography is as good as the writing.

An point to all this;
in the US most people attribute great things spoken in film to the actor who delivers the line.  But the reality is the screen writer wrote those lines and the director told the actor what to act like while delivering them.  From what I read about Keanu Reevs it can be as many as 50 takes to get it right.

In europe there is much more focus on directors and writers than in the states.  What is it like in Oz?

Is it better to see the actor as delivering a screen play under direction?  Or the false position that the actor somehow invents the lines and the psychological edge of the movie.  Encouraging a cult of ability far beyond the actor's scope.

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Head

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In Cassablanca, still the best film ever made, there is a - if I am correct on the details - Lauren Becall 17 years old at the time and very sexy indeed saying to Bogey, if he wants to see her again - "Just whistle.  You know how to whistle don't you?  You put your lips together and blow." 

This is absolutely brilliant writing, acting and directing.

I agree with you completely, but do you think the director intended the double entendre?  Isn't it strange how women looked so much older then - and Idon't think it's anything to do with the context or the technical aspects of the film.  To me she looks 25.  I think it might be that therre weren't different fashions for youth in those days so they dressed similalry to their mothers.

In europe there is much more focus on directors and writers than in the states.  What is it like in Oz?

They are both tragically appalling.  The entire film industry is a self-congratulating champion of mediocrity.  They whine constantly about the relaxation of local content regulations allowing the networks to buy in more overseas productions but the fact is, they are making rubbish and telling each other how great it all is.  I cringe while watching most local productions and it's easy to blame the actors for a poor performance, but it's the script which is letting them down, I think.  As for directing, I worked on a few film and TV sets in a past life and I never once heard a director coach an actor.  Maybe that was all done in rehearsal, but in any case you hear so many lines of Australian productions delivered with the emphasis on all the wrong words, like the actor totally doesn't even know the context.

voyeur2

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I agree with you completely, but do you think the director intended the double entendre?  Isn't it strange how women looked so much older then - and Idon't think it's anything to do with the context or the technical aspects of the film.  To me she looks 25.  I think it might be that therre weren't different fashions for youth in those days so they dressed similalry to their mothers.

They are both tragically appalling.  The entire film industry is a self-congratulating champion of mediocrity.  They whine constantly about the relaxation of local content regulations allowing the networks to buy in more overseas productions but the fact is, they are making rubbish and telling each other how great it all is.  I cringe while watching most local productions and it's easy to blame the actors for a poor performance, but it's the script which is letting them down, I think.  As for directing, I worked on a few film and TV sets in a past life and I never once heard a director coach an actor.  Maybe that was all done in rehearsal, but in any case you hear so many lines of Australian productions delivered with the emphasis on all the wrong words, like the actor totally doesn't even know the context.

Thanks Head for the reasoned reply.  Another film that discusses the 'problem' is the Altman film, The Player.  I saw the film and read all that hokey stuff about the record breaking long take in the opening.  Nice, but who cares?  What was interesting in the film was all these people who want to get their project done.  And Tom Robbins says the writer's words.

I paraphrase here.
The production company has a budget to make (?) number of films that year.  While there are many many excellent proposals, He gets to pick just one.

Sometyhing like that

So here we are, a mega corporation picking a basket to go hanging all their eggs in.
Mega is risk averse.
With the right name - even a dog can bring a bone in.  So we get suits overrseeing the budget, the script, who to pick for the lead, and whom to schmooze for the director chair.

It ain't art - its business.

I was in it as a producer, writer, actor at the pond scum level.  And its the same there, except sometimes, art escapes in to the public eye.

This is why I love this site, this forum.

And, by the way I got a piece coming out in that Litmus thang you promoted a while back.  So thanks for the mention.

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voyeur2

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I agree with you completely, but do you think the director intended the double entendre?  Isn't it strange how women looked so much older then - and I don't think it's anything to do with the context or the technical aspects of the film.

I think the cool thing about 30's, 40's, 50's film is the restraint over blatant sexuality.  There was a visuals censor board, it was strict.  But with double entendre, just about anything went.  Mae West for instance was a scream.  Many others.  As far as looking 25, for the script she sort of had to, but what an amazing presentation of worldly wise, lost the flush of her teens, cynical weary 25 coming from a baby of 17 in the 40's.

Its lots of fun talking with people who agree with one completely.  I think this site in the context of other sites and this discussion is a good example of an art apparatus.  So long as the suits keep their mone grubbing fingers out of the screen and on to a sister site?

C'mon, c'mon, agree with me here.

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Head

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Its lots of fun talking with people who agree with one completely.  I think this site in the context of other sites and this discussion is a good example of an art apparatus.  So long as the suits keep their mone grubbing fingers out of the screen and on to a sister site?

C'mon, c'mon, agree with me here.

That's too cryptic for me.  Say what's on your mind!

How did you find things in the film industry at pond scum level?  We may be wading in there soon with a documentary, and I have no idea where it's going to finish.  But then I thought that about ISM once and it turned out OK.

voyeur2

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That's too cryptic for me.  Say what's on your mind!

How did you find things in the film industry at pond scum level?  We may be wading in there soon with a documentary, and I have no idea where it's going to finish.  But then I thought that about ISM once and it turned out OK.

I guess a bit of proofreading would have helped in that non-communication.

My pond scum level was not in the sense of content, but in altitude in the public awareness.

It was a TV series I wrote and produced, made the sets, and the shooting studio., then 'acted' in it as the host and SME.  (Subject Matter Expert)  The local cable guys provided camera, volunteer cameramen, and sound as well as access to their post production studio.

So it was just like the real thing, me and a bud pitched the idea, the suits actually wore suits, and they slipped it in to their tiny budget for Canadian Content. 

Is this a thing in Oz?  To support local talent , a budgetary requirement to devote X% of budget as part of the franchise fee?

My series called "No room at the Dump"  was about recycling 'garbage' to becoming home decor stuff.  In a very detailed, slow, real time, hands on way, using real hobby level stuff.  13 episodes ran 3 years starting at 4AM, and gradually moving to Prime Time - 2 AM.

For the next series I proposed more of the same old same old but a bit more taking the piss out of these wannabe shows with a couple hundred thou in a 2ooo square foot 'hobby' shop. 

This was in the days of Martha Stewart Living so I thought Mark Latour Living (That being my name) had the same kind of sound trilling off the lip. 

The suits wanted : "Home Handyman"  Or some other generic name.  Closer to mainstream, and to own all the artistic and property rights of the season in perpetuity.  So I spell checked their proposed contract (18 errors, much grammatical nonsense) and sent it back to them saying I didn't feel comfortable working with amateurs.

It was obvious to me they just did not get it, and insulted my intelligence by thinking I would not read the fine print and would give away the farm if they lucked out with a hit they could sell off down the road for production in a 'real studio' with 'real talent'.

It ran all over the Province and enough guys stopped me in shopping malls to tell me it was well thought of if not exactly a screaming success.

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voyeur2

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That's too cryptic for me.  Say what's on your mind!

How did you find things in the film industry at pond scum level?  We may be wading in there soon with a documentary, and I have no idea where it's going to finish.  But then I thought that about ISM once and it turned out OK.

If Oz is like the rest of the world in this respect, it is a viscous place indeed.  My sister in law told me it was all vaporware.  But it costs an astonishing amount to produce if you want real good production values.

I know a script consultant in Ireland who is very good at what she does. 

I mention this because the cheapest part of a film is a COMPLETE script.  No standing around with the director, continuity, sound set guys all costing a bomb per hour while the 'director' and 'writer' figger out what to do next.

Finance is the key.  Who has enough?  How many 'points' do they want?  How much production control do they want to help ensure their investment?  As if they know how to make a film.  They make money.

Ask Liandra, she is in film school if my memory serves.

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EgonArbus

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...but do you think the director intended the double entendre?

"The creative power of an author does not, alas, always follow his good will.  A work grows as it will and sometimes confronts it's author as an independent, even an alien, creation."  Sigmund Freud, Moses and Monotheism

I'm not sure if it matters if the double entendre was intended or not?  Fellini said something similar to above about his films.  Can't remember exact words (wish I'd wrote them down), but something along the lines of disowning a film once it's been made thus allowing it to take on a life of it's own.   Fellini hardly ever gave interviews either.  He hated to dictate to the audience what his films 'were about'!  I think he wanted us to make up our own minds.

As for producers and money-men, I'm with Mssr Brando, when he said, "If you can make money for them, they'll let you shit on their living-room carpet and thank you for it!", although I remember reading a biog. of Brando by a bit-part actor and close friend of Brando, who said, when talking about producer Sam Spiegel, that you could 'place him in a foreign country without a stitch of clothing, and although nude and unknown, in twenty-four hours he would be magnificently tailored, living in a penthouse suite in the best hotel in town, and travelling in a chauffered limousine.  He was an absolutely dazzling con-men.'  Some people even manage to express articulate themselves despite practising the crudest of professions!

Anything Jean Harlow said was sexy, especially when having a go at more 'refined' ladies, whom she could sweep aside with conversation killers like, "I don't go to church.  Kneeling bags my nylons!"

p.s. Voyeur, I think it was 'The Big Sleep' with Bogey and Becall.  'Casablanca' was Bogey and Bergman (and The Usual Suspects!).

liandra_dahl

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On a side note

there is something thrilling to me to hear a woman say dodgy.

I sometimes like to make my boyf say "I hate you", it makes me pretty hot, especially during sex.

"put the letter on the desk, then put your elbows and hands, palms down, on the desk with your face close to the letter" (The Secretary)

I think it is the anticipation I felt when I heard this line that made it so sexy.

Zille- I like to hear Eddie Izzard say just about anything but dodgy would do.

I love to hear pretty much any phrase said in a New Zealand accent, South African is good too.

voyeur2

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"put the letter on the desk, then put your elbows and hands, palms down, on the desk with your face close to the letter" (The Secretary)

Spoken by Jack Nicholson in some movie I can't remember the name of.

"take all your clothes off, get down on your hands and knees, and wait for me."

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wantingscott

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two memories of mine i'll never forget:

"wanna take off our suits?" spoken by my girlfriend when i was 16, in her backyard pool, while her dad was vivible in the house watching a ballgame.

and "get comfortable. take off you clothes, you know- get naked." spoke by a Park Avenue escort whose apartment i was in.

so direct. to the point. so long ago.

these days i'm turned on by: "i can't believe the kids are still asleep" on a rainy saturday morning, looking at the freckled face and shoulders of my wife. i had picked the sheets out at the store, imagining her looking good in them at moments like that.

wscott

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