#1 February 1st, 2005 10:49 PM

sgtbarker
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All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

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#2 February 2nd, 2005 03:01 AM

liz
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

I totally understand that clean nails, etc. is an aesthetic that some people may prefer, but I think it's rather silly to ask the women shooting themselves to conform to this!  Isn't the whole point of ISM for women to express themselves as they choose?  Some of the women on the site may also prefer very clean hands, bottoms of feet, etc., but some of us are kinda dirty girls who spend our days painting or digging in the garden, or stomping the state, or doing any number of things that leave us without time - or sometimes desire! - to be squeaky clean.


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#3 February 2nd, 2005 05:09 AM

wantingscott
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

i always found "dirty" girls to be attractive. as i've said before, my wife is very athletic. all i ask for, personally, is fresh breath (and you can't see that in a photo...)


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#4 February 2nd, 2005 06:23 AM

centrevom
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

A bit of dirt in awkward places is all part of living a normal life, it seems to me.  Personally I quite like it - it reminds us that the artists are real people living real lives.  Only toy dolls, and women who try to imitate toy dolls, are perfectly clean all the time.

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#5 February 2nd, 2005 06:41 AM

voyeur2
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

Hmmm.
Get them to clean under their nails, comb the hair, freshen up the toenail polish, fingernail polish, do the lip stick just right, clean up the apartment?

Why not get the airbrush out while you're at it, rent some lights and hire a photog.?

The real reason I LOVE  this site is the sight of the real thing, not the reel thing.

Let's relax and have fun.


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#6 February 2nd, 2005 07:47 AM

wantingscott
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

voyeur2,
funny thing is, i'm in the line of work responsible for "airbrushing" models. honestly, most models have amazing sex appeal and are more attractive in the t, jeans and sneaks that they wear to the shoot, and put back on when they leave... the end result of my efforts, the glossy parts, it's not "sexy" so much as a representation of some sort of a sterile world. the message that sells the product is subverse: "you the average person will never be able to achieve this". And yet it's such a myth. the sets are fake. most of the final shots are composits of 2 or 3 selects.
when i'm at a party and i'm asked what i do for a living, i get almost apologetic as i explain the whole process, especially when someone says "you mean those models don't have perfect skin?!?"

wscott


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#7 February 2nd, 2005 09:40 AM

jimmioz
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

if you see something you don't like just move on. isn't this about self expression and not conforming to how others want you to appear? i'm sure there would be hundreds if not thousands of more explicit websites out there showing women with clean fingernails and toenails...

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#8 February 2nd, 2005 09:49 AM

theda
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

maybe we should lock the grrrls up in glass cases before their shoots, ala Snow White? That just might do the trick...

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#9 February 2nd, 2005 09:50 AM

ruby
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

well if that is the case, then don't you find this site a breath of fresh air because the models present as they are?

we don't want to have to clean under our finger nails for you, we don't want to have to shave/ not shave our pussies for you either! 

we just want to be as we are and be respected for the fact that we are willing to open up and share ourselves with you!

comments like this, although they seem a pleasant enough request, are tantamount to censorship l believe.

The good people at project ISM told me, ‘this site is about YOU, you dress how you wanna, look how you wanna, take photos how you wanna’ and I love that attitude because it fosters creativity. 

Abit of dirt is what life it about!  We gotta start accepting peeps warts and all!  The majority of pornography wants to sterilize women (as you so rightly pointed out, you are involved in this!)  to make us ‘clean’ perfect creatures.  Yes, doll like is a good analogy! 

And the old saying rings true once again, if you don’t like it, don’t look at it.

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#10 February 2nd, 2005 11:21 AM

sgtbarker
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

My post was in no way meant to hurt anyone it is my own personal opinion.
Thank you!

liz wrote:

I totally understand that clean nails, etc. is an aesthetic that some people may prefer, but I think it's rather silly to ask the women shooting themselves to conform to this!  Isn't the whole point of ISM for women to express themselves as they choose?  Some of the women on the site may also prefer very clean hands, bottoms of feet, etc., but some of us are kinda dirty girls who spend our days painting or digging in the garden, or stomping the state, or doing any number of things that leave us without time - or sometimes desire! - to be squeaky clean.

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#11 February 2nd, 2005 11:55 AM

theda
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

My post was in no way meant to hurt anyone it is my own personal opinion.
Thank you!

We forgive you:)

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#12 February 2nd, 2005 12:03 PM

ruby
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

yeah me too.......

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#13 February 2nd, 2005 12:12 PM

jimmioz
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Re: All of these folio's are very hot, BUT........

sgtbarker wrote:

Please make sure you clean your fingernails, toenails and the bottom of your feet. Everything else you have is so nice and clean, makes the viewer very interested and even yes excited and then you see dirt under a fingernail or under a toenail and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm sure you didn't mean to cause any offence. I can't speak for everyone but the responses to your post probably stem from the first sentence of you requesting people to clean fingernails, toenails etc which i think most wouldn't view as an opinion...anyway that just my opinion! time to move on...

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